Metropolitan police invite Thamesmead locals to talk to them

Next Thursday there is a local meeting to discuss issues around Thamesmead. Details below:

EMMANUEL BAPTIST CHURCH, YARNTON WAY
Thursday 13th November starting at 7pm

This is your opportunity to tell us your concerns about the local area. This is an open invitation to anyone who lives or works in Thamesmead. The meeting will be led by an independent figure.

Richard Welch (meeting chair)
Borough Commander, London Fire Brigade Bexley borough

Councillor Alex Sawyer
Cabinet Member for Community Safety and Leisure

David Bryce-Smith
Deputy Director Development, Housing and Community Safety, Bexley Council

Chief Superintendent Peter Ayling
Borough Commander, Bexley borough police

Name to be confirmed
Representative Peabody Trust

Regards,

Chris Molnar | PC 710RY | Bexley Borough OCU | Thamesmead East DWO

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Community Voice meeting

I have just received a remind of the Community Voice meeting that is forthcoming. It seemed worth a mention in case anyone reading should like to attend.

Community Voice
Have your say and be heard
Thursday 4th September 2014
6.30-8.30pm

The Link, Thamesmead.

Hosted by Erith &Thamesmead MP, Teresa Pearce and featuring guests and presentations from…

– Trust Thamesmead’s Health & Financial wellbeing initiatives
– Introducing Thamesmead Councillors
– Bexley Police Team
– Update from Peabody’s Thamesmead Strategy Team
– Local projects update

The regular Community Voice quarterly meetings held at The Link Thamesmead are the place to be if you have any problems, queries or want to find out more about what is going on, in and around Thamesmead.

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Steampunk Thamesmead

One of these days I’ll get around to visiting the Crossness Pumping Station.

Rumour has it, the reason Thamesmead can get a bit whiffy on a hot day with the wind in the wrong direction is the sewage works. The Crossness Pumping station is a Victorian building with some fantastic colourful ironwork, and it’s opened up every so often for people to visit and have a look – there’s a wealth of photos on the likes of Flickr.

Interestingly, it’s playing host to an event for steampunk enthusiasts in late September. It looks as though they’ve book it for the evening to run a private, ticketed event. It certainly brings variety to the region.

Tickets can be bought here:
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/the-first-crossness-engines-sewage-metropolis-steampunk-convivial-tickets-12101264207?aff=estw

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Travellers on Horses

I was standing at the checkout in Lidl today when a traveller went past using a horse and trap. It was closely followed by another. This is not an unusual sight in Thamesmead. However, those two were followed by what I’d estimate to be at least a hundred. I had my shopping put through the checkout, paid, packed and wandered outside, all whilst the trail of horses continued. I decided to capture the tail end of it on video.

I have no idea where they were all going. After they disappeared a few stragglers followed in between more normal road traffic.

One of these days I’m going to put together a post about the horses around Thamesmead.

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Girl injured on Yarnton Way

There was a road traffic accident today in the early afternoon on Yarnton Way. The details are sketchy with reports directly contradicting each other. At first it was reported as a young woman in her 20s being hit by a bus, later it was a ten year old girl. Later still the suggestion was that although she walked out between buses, it was actually a white van that hit her.

Someone near the scene reports that doctors from Lakeside Medical Practice went out to help, and the girl had a broken leg. An air ambulance is said to have attended and the girl is said to be in hospital, injured, but not in a life threatening way.

People have been saying for some time that this is a dangerous area of the road. Cars speed along it, it’s a busy route with several buses commonly using it. The walkways were designed to avoid these issues, but the walkways are being pulled down. The timescale for more of this isn’t certain yet, but the one walkway that has been demolished was right by the scene of the accident.

Gallions and Peabody say that because they don’t own the roads they have no say over when work will be done on them. I believe it’s Greenwich council that has authority over this area – if not then it’s Bexley. There have been plans regarding traffic calming measures (I do hope it won’t be speedbumps) and pedestrian crossings but there’s no word as to when.

There’s also no word as to when the remaining walkways will be pulled down, but this stuff really, seriously needs some consideration and co-ordination. The bridge that goes over Harrow Manor Way and links to the remains of Binsey Walk has signs next to it warning that it should be the preferred route for pedestrians as direct road crossing could lead to fatalities. The traffic there is much more difficult to negotiate.

Despite the confusions in the press around the story, I believe the victim today was a girl who is in a stable condition, and I’m glad of that. I sincerely hope that she’s the last and something gets done about crossing provisions soon.

Edited to add:

Well so much for my hopes. I have just heard that a boy was seriously injured by a car on Kale Road this evening, this time down to poor parking blocking the driver’s view. The walkways may have caused fear at ground level but this was just the sort of thing they were designed to avoid. It would seem we need more road safety education locally for kids and drivers alike. I hope this boy is okay, but the reports don’t sound promising.

Further edited:

The boy died.

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In The Grand Manner (part 1)

This, and the subsequent posts in the series, is a copy of an article printed in Country Life, June 19th, 1975. By reproducing it here I hope to bring a bit of history to a wider audience. The ownership and copyright rest with the original writer and publisher and should they request it, it can of course be removed.

When London was present with a virgin site of some 1,500 acres for use as a new residential and industrial area it was to be expected that the development would be in the grand manner. There were, however, problems on an equally grand scale to be face before building could begin.

Thamesmead lies facing a 3 1/2-mile river frontage between Woolwich and Erith, some ten miles from the centre of London. It was mainly marshland lying below the Thames high-water level, crossed by drainage ditches and covered with scrub. Reclamation work had gone on in Roman times, and later the monks of Lesnes Abbey drained part of the land. The Royal Arsenal arrived in the 17th century, and convicts carried out their “hard labour” filling in further areas. After the Second World War armament production ceased nand the site was purchased by the Greater London Council in the 1960s.

The initial project, on some 300 acres, started in 1967. This was the era of tower blocks and industrialised building systems, and of unlimited energy  and belief in perpetual growth. It was natural enough that these ideas should influence the GLC architects, and to criticise the monumental scale of the buildings, now that high-rise is unfashionable is, perhaps unfair. Nevertheless, the first impact that the new riverside city makes, with its massive grey concrete terraces and towers, is a somewhat daunting one. An exciting distant vista becomes overwhelming at close quarters, despite the liberal interspacing of grass, trees and artificial lakes.

In fact, it is the artificial landscaping that gives it a slightly unreal, futuristic appearance. Indeed, this no doubt was the reason why Thamesmead was chosen for filming part of The Clockwork Orange (sic) – that disturbing vision of our future. In 20 years, however, when the trees mature the impact will have softened. And although the concrete will retain its harshness, the newer parts of the development, using more sypathetic mixtures of brick and timber, should mellow the tone of the buildings.

Whatever one feels about Thamesmead, there can be no  question that a great deal of imagination and thought has gone into it, and that compared with the usual large-scale local authority development, it is an outstanding piece of planning. It won the Sir Patrick Abercrombie Award for Architecture and Town Planning for its 1967 master plan, and has attracted international attention and brought in thousands of professional and lay visitors from all over the world.

 

When it is completed in the 1990s, Thamesmead will contain about 50,000 people at a fairly high density, varying from about 50 to the acre in some areas to 140 to the acre in others. To avoid it becoming a dormitory town, generous provision has been made for factories and offices. To a large extent it will be a self-sufficient community, with local and central shops, and extensive educational, social and recreational facilities.

Part two coming soon…

 

 

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Thamesmead Youth Provision

I’ve been growing a little concerned by some recent news around Thamesmead regarding provisions for kids. I went along to the South Thamesmead Neighbourhood Group last week where I discovered that the headmaster of Bexley Business Academy was due to leave, and also that Mark Blundell, former manager of The Link has left. Today I read in the News Shopper that there are far more staff leaving BBA than just Guy, the amiable man who had headed up the school and spoke with pride of the improvement it had seen in recent years. It’s a school that has displayed banners with quotes from recent Offsted reports across its gates. There seems to be a lack of requirement for staff all of a sudden, though, as reported by the paper:

http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/11351017.At_least_14_staff_to_leave_The_Business_Academy__Bexley/

As for The Link, I’d always found Mark to be proactive and friendly and keen to see youth involvement in plans for the future of Thamesmead. His departure seems to have gone without comment in the press or on The Link’s own website, and happened very suddenly – one day he was volunteering to arrange a minibus for the STNG, then within weeks he was gone. I’m not one to jump to conclusions or encourage rumour without foundation but it all looks a little bit strange.

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Transport – a bridge in Thamesmead?

Thamesmead has been in the news again recently with a lot of noise around the transport links and the reanimated plans for a road bridge.

I’ve seen arguments for and against a road bridge and am largely undecided on whether it’s a good idea. I do appreciate that public transport could do a lot for the area without ploughing cars and lorries through the place, but while they would move people about with relative ease, business will only invest in the area if deliveries are easier and deliveries mean road traffic, not DLR extensions and foot bridges.

On the other hand, the amount of traffic they want to shove down the existing roads is unworkable. Knee Hill and Brampton Road simply can’t cope, and it would make a nightmare out of getting onto Harrow Manor Way from the likes of Yarnton Way. (Pointless aside: When I was looking to move to Thamesmead I would often see adverts for houses that gave directions for viewings that included Yarnton Way. It was several months before I realised that was the name of the road, as the font the estate agents used made it appear to say Yamton.)

Of course, the road has been proposed and dismissed so many times that I use the term re-animated quite deliberately as I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see the plans shelved, burried, killed and dug up again in another five to ten years.

If Thamesmead Garden City is to become a reality, though, then we surley need somethign to improve access to the northern end of Thamesmead as well as Crossrail dropping people in the south? On that… I previously noted the sudden enthusiasm to make Thamesmead Garden City and wondered quite what it meant. At the South Thamesmead Neighbourhood Group last week I found out: It doesn’t mean anything as such. It’s just a woolly phrase that was trendy at the time in the light of the budget statements and applying it to Thamesmead meant that Peabody could potentially raise the profile of the area.

Some more blog musings surrounding the bridge plans over here:
http://853blog.com/2013/03/05/greenwich-council-well-build-our-own-river-crossing/
http://853blog.com/2014/07/01/bridge-east-london-come-labour-bombs-and-fall-on-plumstead/

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Estate Charges

The bane of many residents’ lives in Thamesmead has not reared its ugly head as soon as in recent years: The Thamesmead Estate charges bills have not yet gone out.

In an interesting move, despite giving me an indication that they would probably arrive around June, the bills have not landed, but a resident’s survey on the subject has. All residents should have received a letter from Peabody canvassing their views, and responses can be sent in on paper or via an online questionnaire. Questions asked include multiple choice ones clearly designed to see how realistic peoples’ views of what they are paying for are and more general questions regarding how things could be improved. Whether this will placate some of the more vocal complainants who believe that the charges are outrageous and the work they pay for isn’t completed to an adequate standard remains to be seen.

Peabody has a not insignificant amount of money at its fingertips, and it is a charitable organisation with a lot of experience of regenerating failing estates. They are by no means perfect, and with the amount of land and stock that they will be covering in the Thamesmead region should some of the ambitious building plans go ahead, they stand to make a reasonable profit. I wonder whether they are looking to adjust the bills downwards to improve public opinion in the area, and will be intrigued to see what my bill says when it finally appears.

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Exhaustion and Lake Misuse

As I write I am missing the Thamesmead Community Voice meeting. Unfortunately I had a hectic weekend over the bank holiday and wore myself out. I’ve been at work but I’m a wreck in the evenings and I have to pack for a forthcoming holiday. As such, it seemed prudent to take the chance for some rest and forego the meeting.

If anyone who was there would like to contact me with a short (or long!) write up I’d like to publish it.

Meanwhile, though, I’m a little annoyed to hear of the abuse Southmere Lake is seeing of late. First of all the News Shopper reported obnoxious behaviour from people on jetskis being rowdy on the lake – which just made me roll my eyes a bit. I guess that’s the next step up from roaming the estate on noisy motorbikes. The next news was quite sad, though. A swan who was resident on the lake had built a nest in one of the northern corners. It wasn’t the prettiest nest ever, lined as it was with crisp packets and other debris, but the swan was sitting on a clutch of eggs on there – I have a photo in the gallery section. Sadly the eggs are now destroyed by a combination of rocks having damaged them and being abandoned, and the abandonment comes only due to the mother swan being killed, presumably by the same rock wielding thugs.

And this, as they say, is why we can’t have nice things.

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